New Year, New Practice!  As we enter 2022, many dispute resolution and legal professionals are resolving to grow their business and elevate their practice and in our Season Three opening episode we have the information that you need to get started!  

In a special two-part episode, online mediation expert, Susan Guthrie is joined by Ronnie Deaver, founder of No Bull Marketing, to discuss the critical role that Google plays in marketing your practice.  In fact, Ronnie says if you do only one thing this year in marketing, make your presence on Google the focus!  

This is such a big topic that we have broken it down into two parts.   Part One is focused on “Google My Business” which helps you establish your online presence and create trust in your potential clients.  Ronnie touches on everything that you need to know to make your mark, get those reviews and start moving up to the top of the search engine.   Unlike many marketing experts, Ronnie is fully transparent and tells you what it takes for you do manage your Google yourself.  He shares insider tips and bottom line numbers and insights for outsourcing this important role.

In our Part Two episode with Ronnie, he pulls back the curtain on the mysteries of Google Ads.  From why they are so effective, to what you realistically need to spend, and most importantly, what return on investment you can expect for your output.  Ronnie is so certain of the efficacy of Google Ads, that he offers a special guarantee to his clients that the campaign will be profitable in three months or it’s free!  He clearly knows how to make Google work for you so be sure to listen in and get your Google on today!

Part One – Google My Business:

Part Two – Google Ads:

Bonus Material:

About The Host Susan Guthrie:

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law and Mediation Attorneys in the country, has been helping individuals and families navigate separation and divorce for 30 years. Susan also is one of the leading experts in online mediation in the country and trains other professionals in the practical and ethical considerations of conducting their mediations online through her business Learn to Mediate Online (

Susan has been featured in and on media outlets such as CNBC, News Nation, Market Watch, Forbes, Eye on Chicago, WGN, the ABA’s Just Resolutions Magazine, Thrive Global, The Nook Online among others. She is licensed to practice law in the States of California and Connecticut as well as before the Supreme Court of the United States.

As a leading dispute resolution professional, Susan is honored to serve on the Executive Council of the American Bar Association’s (ABA) Dispute Resolution Section as the Membership Officer and to be a Co-Chair of the Mediation Committee


Susan recently partnered with mediation legend, Forrest “Woody” Mosten, to form the Mosten Guthrie Academy for Mediation and Collaborative Law Training to provide the gold standard of training for professionals in an online format. 

Upcoming Mosten Guthrie trainings include:

There are even opportunities to customize your own training program or consulting group with Woody and Susan!

Visit to find out more.

Susan’s other Podcast:  Susan’s divorce podcast, The Divorce and Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq. debuted on iTunes “Top Podcasts” List for self-help podcasts and is one of the leading divorce podcasts in the country. It was recently named as one of the Top 1.5% of Podcasts Worldwide and Ranked in the Top 3 divorce podcasts in the 2021 Year-End Round Up!  Divorce & Beyond is focused on pulling back the curtain on the mysteries of the divorce process and bringing tips and resources to help people to thrive and shine in their new future beyond divorce.

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About Ronnie Deaver:

Ronnie Deaver, founder of NoBull Marketing specializes in helping lawyers and mediators add 5+ cases and $15,000+ in revenue every. single. month using Google My Business and Google Ads. His campaigns are guaranteed profitable in 3 months or less or it’s free!” 

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